1 Timothy 2: 8-15

I desire then that in every place the men should pray, lifting holy hands without anger or quarreling; likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works. Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first,then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet she will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control.

Tuesday, July 28, 2009

interesting blog article

Hey gang!

I had a nice chat with some Jehovah's Witnesses at my house this morning. One of the things that came up was the eternal submission of Jesus to the Father (since they believe God created Jesus and Jesus created the holy spirit). So, I sent an email to a friend to chat through this and he gave me the following link:

http://benwitherington.blogspot.com/2006/03/eternal-subordination-of-christ-and-of.html

Evidently, John Grudem and a growing number of evangelicals, believe that Jesus is eternally subordinate to Father, because that is His role. And they use this view to support their belief in complementarianism and the subordination of women. I haven't heard this before, but it is taking the view we all have roles to its logical conclusion.

It may be helpful for our final paper, but even if not, it certainly is something to process through, especially since we talked about Grudem's book in our discussion time during class.

Peace of Christ,
Alex
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Monday, July 27, 2009

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Welcome to the 1 Timothy Group. This site is designed to facilitate discussion regarding interpretation of 1 Timothy 2:8-15 for the NT 502 course. Think of it as an online version of our louder discussions that happen hours before the paper is due in the library! Post resources, questions, answers, comments, and anything that you think may help others survive.

-Gabe
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